And no one is left out of the inheritance of that - that’s our shared human inheritance.Īnd another really strong piece of evidence is that every human child is born doing this stuff innately. The entire world, for better or for worse, has been altered by the human hand, by human beings doing this weird and irrational thing that only we do, amongst all our peers in the animal world, which is to waste our time making things that nobody needs, making things a little more beautiful than they have to be, altering things, changing things, building things, composing things, shaping things. You and I and everybody we know were descended from tens of thousands of years of makers. One, all of your ancestors were creative - all of them. And that evidence is multifold, but here’s some pieces of it. Most people are cast out of it - because I think it’s innate, and I think the evidence that it’s innate is pretty airtight. Gilbert: Most people are left out of it, which is not even the right way to say it.
And it seems like people are coming - a lot of people come to you with precisely that longing and feeling of being left out of the experience of creativity. And that didn’t feel attainable to me, or to describe me. But I saw it as something that was somewhere out there in the world, in other people, and that you had to be, in some special way, gifted in some special way, original - an artist. But it was almost more like a longing than a fascination. And I wonder, actually, if a lot of people have this experience, and I always thought it was so singular to me, but I was fascinated with the whole idea of creativity. Tippett: Just starting to read you on this, it brought back - I grew up in a very small town in what feels like a faraway place. So it should be that all are invited, or else what are we even doing here? And I think that’s a pity and a loss, and sometimes, even a tragedy. The more mystical and precious, in a way, that we make creativity and spirituality both, the more people get left out of it. And maybe it’s the mystical things that we need to demystify the most, in order to lay claim to them and to not keep thinking of them as something that only belongs to a very special class of people. I think there’s even a thing such as that, isn’t there? I do think that just because something is mystical doesn’t mean it shouldn’t also be demystified. So on the one hand, demystifying it, and on the one hand, revealing it as magic but every-day, attainable magic. Tippett: But also, using the language of “magic” in your latest book, Big Magic. Gilbert: “…is choosing the path of curiosity over the path of fear,” which is pretty straightforward. And then, so on the one hand, demystifying creativity - what did you say? What’s your definition? “Creative living…” And so much of that coalesces around this idea of what it means to be creative and, I think, demystifying that. And what I’ve been so interested in is watching this evolution and development of you into, through, and beyond that, and so, watching how you’re processing that and how you’re articulating what you’re learning about life and inhabiting this role you have in people’s lives, whether you ask for it or not. Tippett: So I kind of resisted interviewing you earlier, because there was a time when Eat Pray Love was everywhere. She grew up on a small, working, family Christmas tree farm in Litchfield, Connecticut. She has published seven books, including, most recently, Big Magic: Creative Living Beyond Fear. Tippett: Elizabeth Gilbert has written widely in her career, from The New York Times to O Magazine to GQ. Tippett: I’m Krista Tippett, and this is On Being. And so, when we live in a world that has come to fetishize passion above all, there’s a great deal of pressure around that. Passion is not so constant, not so gentle, not so forgiving, and sometimes. And it’s a very gentle friend and a very forgiving friend, and a very constant one.
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And, she says, it’s not to be confused with the more familiar trope, to “follow your passion.”Įlizabeth Gilbert: I think curiosity is our friend that teaches us how to become ourselves. This has resonance for our common life too. She defines creativity, in life as in art, as choosing the path of curiosity over the path of fear. Through the disorienting process of becoming a global celebrity, Elizabeth Gilbert has reflected deeply on the gift and challenge of creativity.
And you can call it “chick lit,” but it’s inspired millions to move forward with their lives, differently. Eat Pray Love was borne of a moment of total collapse in her life. Krista Tippett, host: Elizabeth Gilbert’s name is synonymous with her fantastically bestselling memoir, Eat Pray Love, but she started out writing for publications by men and for men.
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